UFO Journalist and Author Sean Casteel's Interview with Katharina Wilson

Sean: Hello Katharina -- Can we start with some biographical background? Where you were born, your education, etc.? Also, when did you first realize you were having abduction experiences?

Hi Sean...I was born in the Deep South and went to school there and along the Gulf Coast. I attended a university in the Midwest and majored in music. A few years later I returned to the Gulf Coast and studied psychology. I was just beginning to start work on a master's degree in psychology when I was sidelined by this phenomenon.  

I knew some unusual things had happened to me during my childhood such as vivid dreams of me floating and experiencing missing time episodes, but I really became aware of the abductions in 1987 when I was 27 years old. 

Sean: Please summarize your first book, The Alien Jigsaw. Why did you feel compelled to write it? It did very well for a self-published book, didn't it? 

The Alien Jigsaw is based on journals that I had been keeping since I was 23 years old. Initially, I began writing down my dreams, but then my journal became somewhat of a tool of exploration for me. I had some unusually vivid dreams as a child and they remained so vivid to me that I remembered them into my adult years so I wrote those down as well.  

When a MUFON investigator first suggested that I write a book about my alien experiences I rejected the idea outright. About three years later and after moving 3000 miles away, another MUFON investigator suggested that I write a book. We were having a conversation about how some of my experiences did not fit what had become accepted as the standard abduction model. I seemed to be remembering events that had not been published before and this left me feeling rather alienated.  

The real impetus came when I was on my way home after attending my first MUFON Symposium in 1992. I was at the airport in Albuquerque, New Mexico and while I was walking through the airport - unbelievably - I received a telepathic message. I was told, 

"Do not ever give up. Do not let anyone discourage you or frighten you and do not allow yourself to be disillusioned. People will try. You must keep to your own truths of your experiences with us. We depend on you. You are our emissary."  

Needless to say, I was stunned that I had received such a message, especially in such a public place, but I immediately had an inner knowing that I was supposed to publish my journals and write a book. 

Sean: What led you to write the new book? I know you said it had to do with the pleading red-haired woman, but please tell that story again here for our readers.  

In July of 2006, I had a very detailed encounter with two redheaded Greys and I could not get the experience out of my mind. There were also other, very intense experiences I had over the past 12 years, and I didn't realize how much they were affecting me on a conscious and a subconscious level. One day shortly after that experience, my husband made the suggestion that I publish another book. It was the last thing I thought I'd ever do, but his suggestion made the idea seem acceptable again. I began reviewing my journals I had been keeping for the last 12 years and I could not believe what I was finding in them. It was scary. There is no way I could 'not' have written this book. I think the experiences would have continued to churn inside of me until the proverbial bubble burst.  

The experience with the redheaded Greys involved a group of abductees, of which I was a part. We were all given a group vision of incredible destruction and a dire warning about the future. In addition to the vision, I was told that we have to hide who we are and we have to become like the enemy so we will not be killed. They also said, 

"They are coming and if they find out who and what you really are, you will be slaughtered…everything that makes you who you are has to change" 

The female redheaded Grey, who is pictured on the cover of my book, was literally crying for us - crying for us - abductees - to save humanity. It is still quite an emotional thing for me to talk about. She and this particular experience are the main reasons I wrote the book.  

Sean: The new book recounts several abduction experiences involving what appeared to be normal looking humans from the military. Please talk about that in general terms.  

Yes - this is a very uncomfortable subset of the overall phenomenon. These types of abductions have been termed MILABS, which is an acronym for 'military abductions' and was coined by Helmut Lammer in his book titled MILABS: Military Mind Control and Alien Abduction. 

They involve some abductees seeing other humans who are described as military looking due to their uniforms, haircuts and demeanor. They are seen in terrestrial looking places including military bases and they inject us with drugs and ask us questions in an interrogative style. Because of these activities, some abductees cannot help but wonder if specific military and/or intelligence personnel are also abducting us. It would make sense that they would want to know what we know and they would use their own (terrestrial) methods to get that information. There are also other possible reasons for their involvement and I go into more detail about those in my book. 

I also think it is important to stay open to the possibility that since some Hybrids look so human and are probably already 'walking among us,' they may in fact be the ones we are mistakenly calling military or intelligence personnel. If they look human, or as I say in my book, "human, but not human," it would be quite easy for them to abduct us. They blend in with us, they have the ability to utilize alien technology to take us and return us, and they have the telepathic abilities to control, or partially control our minds and what we remember. 

Sean: You also have a great many visions of a future war on Earth that may involve both humans and various types of aliens. Please talk about that here. Are the aliens saying that some kind of human/alien Armageddon is predestined to happen? 

Well, this is the most disturbing aspect of the whole phenomenon to me. Yes, I have been led to believe, shown in visions, and told outright that something very dark looms on humanity's horizon; one example I just gave you involved the redheaded Greys. The subject of war is a major concern of the Beings and I refer to the aftermath of this war and what's coming as a major transition. 

I have seen nuclear war and have been led to believe that it will be a war over oil. However, I have also seen another alien species coming to attack us. Beings I know nothing about except that they may be interdimensional or from an area of space we are unaware exists. I wonder sometimes if these other Beings I've seen in some of my experiences and visions are going to take advantage of humans during a war we create ourselves. With the mess in Iraq and our troops already fighting an 'invisible' war with Iran and Syria, it's possible the catalyst has already been ignited. I really don't want anything like this to happen and I have tried to resist it, but the message is repeatedly hammered into some my experiences. 

I was also shown Earth in the future, what I believe was the year 2040 or slightly thereafter. Sometime prior to this, I was told there was a terrible war that killed many humans. I was also shown that the humans who survive would coexist on this planet with three other species: the Blondes, Greys and probably Hybrids. What I saw in 2040 or shortly thereafter was three different species peacefully inhabiting the planet - a very different Earth.  

Sean: You say the hybrids being bred by the aliens are looking increasingly human and may already be walking among us, a theory that is shared with Budd Hopkins, among others. What's that all about?

Over the years, my interaction with Hybrid Beings has shown me that they are becoming more and more human in both their physical appearance and in their emotional makeup. I have seen certain Hybrids who look so human they could walk among us and not be detected. They look just like us and have incredible mental faculties, including possessing extreme telepathic abilities. 

They may be here to invade our planet by stealth or they may be here to help us through this upcoming transition. I also believe the Hybrids themselves might be part of this transition that is coming. They have to be involved some way. I just feel that very strongly because of what I've seen. It's very complicated. Where are all of these Hybrids living now? On alien 'motherships?' In underground bases and cities? On the dark side of the moon? Maybe they are tired of living in hiding. Maybe they want what we have: a beautiful planet - before humans completely destroy it - and fresh air to breathe.  

Sean: In your new book, you say that you believe the Grays, Blondes, and Hybrids are basically friendly and attempting to help mankind. Why do you feel they are so benevolent? Is their goodness starting to outweigh the typical trauma of the abduction experience? Please explain how you made that transition. Also, please talk a little about the alien entities you feel are decidedly evil and hostile.

My belief that the Greys, Blondes and Hybrids are basically benevolent or neutral is because we are still here. I'm still here, despite having interacted with them many times. I'm not saying they're all good and wonderful; they certainly have a their own agenda. It just seems to me that if they didn't care about us – or some of us – they would have and could have gotten rid of us a long time ago. For example, their minds are so powerful they could easily make someone in the right position launch a warhead and begin a nuclear war. They haven't done that and I doubt they ever will. 

Another reason I tend to think they are not so bad is because of my experience with seeing Earth in the future. I was told that when "…they [the aliens] came, they gave us a cure for AIDS." We were also living peacefully together.

The question of their goodness outweighing the trauma of this experience is psychological. I think it is human nature for us to survive, physically and psychologically, so abductees do what we have to do to get through this. I suffer from posttraumatic stress disorder because of everything I've been through and I give a lot of credit to my husband and best friend for his care and understanding. We've been together for 23 years and he's been incredibly supportive.

I can't go through my life whining because the aliens ruined my life by taking my music career away or because I'm different from most people. Yes, it's really tough at times, but I simply could not survive if I constantly viewed myself as a victim, or being 'mind controlled' or experiencing ‘Stockholm Syndrome' or being a person with no free will left. And, if this is all Satan's big manipulation, I still have my belief in the God-force, so I continue on, taking it one day at a time. 

There is what I call a ‘dark side' to this phenomenon and I believe it involves a negative spirit or entity connection. Some of the Beings I've seen could care less about us, and the last time I saw one particular group they referred to humans as 'hamsters.' This group also knew about 9-11 prior to it occurring, but did nothing to prevent it. The two times I saw these types of Beings they were wearing hooded capes and they had no faces, only a black liquid-like energy where their faces should have been. I never saw hands or feet and it may be that they were incorporeal Beings draped in capes for effect.  

There is also a group of short, pudgy Beings with dark hair and wrinkled skin. The one I saw most clearly had eyes shaped like ours, but they were larger. Their irises were vivid blue and their pupils were shaped like a horizontal diamond-like slit and they were bright white. I have had several experiences with them and they were extremely manipulative and seemed to care less for the pain and suffering they were causing to the other abductees I saw. It may be that they are just so desperate to survive that they will do anything. 

Sean: Please talk about why you're offering the book for free on the Internet. This is a relatively new approach and we'd like to learn more about it.  

The Internet is a great tool for communicating and for sharing knowledge. I have an intense feeling of mission in this. I believe my entire life was directed in such a way so that I could be involved in, as I say in my book, "…waking a sleeping world to the aliens' presence." 

I also know that my information is supposed to reach specific people and that we are all supposed to be working together. These other people, some of whom I like to refer to as "abductee-emissaries," are all working to awaken our species to the alien presence. I do not know who we all are or how many of us there are, and that was one of the reasons for publishing this book on-line and making it available for free on the Internet.

To me, trying to make money from this limits the availability of the message and it creates a burden. There was a time when published books were the only way to go, but I think that time is over. I don't begrudge anyone for making money and being paid for their hard work regarding this subject, but as those of us know from our experiences with them, publishing companies limit the message. They want to control the information and only publish what sells. For me, that doesn't always go hand in hand with truth. That is why I self-published my first two books and my monograph, Project Open Mind / MILABS. I got tired of being told, "Your story isn't about such and such." Well, yes it is and the success of The Alien Jigsaw proved it.

I hope I have started a trend for other abductees and people who are searching for the truth and want to help others. I don't keep any professional mailing lists and only sent out 200 e-mails about my book, but in the first two weeks that my book was published, I had over 600 downloads of it and received well over 100,000 hits on my site. I think that's exciting for a self-published book and a little-known individual like me. 

Sean: Where do you feel all this is leading? Both personally and for abductees as a group? Do you feel secure enough in what you've seen to feel good about things in the long run? How does the future look to you?

Well, I have to let out a big sigh when I think about that question. I attempted to explain this in my book and I hope I did a good job. The last chapter, Good News: Bad News was very difficult to write. On the one hand, I want to understand and explain the truth about where this is all heading, but on the other hand, what if I'm totally wrong? What if I mislead people? That's the last thing I want to do.  

I've tried to use my knowledge and that of other reputable abduction researchers as well as my personal experiences to explain where I believe this is heading. I was shocked at the conclusions I reached. To be honest, although I pray every day and try to think as positively as I can, I have a great fear about the future. I am not so afraid of what the aliens are going to do as much as I am about what the human reaction to their presence is going to be. 

If this upcoming transition is as widespread as I believe it will be, people will have to finally face this phenomenon head-on and I believe the ontological shock for most humans will be too much for them to handle.  

Abductees and abduction researchers have had decades to slowly assimilate the presence and activities of these Beings into our lives. Can you imagine what it is going to be like for the masses who are completely unaware of what has been happening to suddenly have this thrust upon their psyches? 

How will the rest of humanity feel about abductees when they discover these Beings are indeed real? Will we be vindicated? Will they show us sympathy or will they turn on us, calling us 'alien sympathizers' or worse?  

It is the extremely negative rhetoric the Bush administration has unleashed in this so-called 'war on terror' that bothers me greatly. Russia had ‘The Motherland.' Germany had ‘The Fatherland.' And now we have ‘The Homeland.' And, "If you're not for us, you're against us." I don't think people understand how powerful those words are. This way of thinking has crept back into the American psyche under the guise of patriotism and our government and media controlling us through fear.  

The question that preoccupies me the most is, how will abductees be treated by our fellow human beings? It depends greatly on how these Beings make their presence known. If they come to us offering ways to save our planet and provide us with cures for our diseases such as AIDS and cancer, we'll probably do all right. If there is some type of catastrophe and the aliens help us, these Beings absolutely must be perceived as not having caused it. On the other hand, if they make themselves known during a nationwide or worldwide conflict, I think people will turn on abductees and blame us for 'aiding and abetting' what will be most likely labeled as ‘the new terrorists,' even though we have been physically abducted since we were young children and our government, the media and the majority of the public have ignored us. 

It's ironic that I've spent a great deal of my life trying to understand what is happening and tying to wake people up to what's going on, and now that we are coming to the end of this, I find myself asking, "What the hell have I done? – I've outed myself!" 

Depending on how these Beings reach the end of this process, I see either complete chaos and great suffering for us or I see abductees being vindicated, at last.  I will focus on and will pray for the latter because I very much want this to end positively for us and for our planet.

Visit Sean Casteel's Web site at www.seancasteel.com. Sean Casteel is the author of UFOs, Prophecy and the End of Time, Signs and Symbols of the Second Coming and The Excluded Books of the Bible, which are all available at his Web site as well as through Amazon.com and Filament Books. His most recent book is UFOs Attack Earth: The Out of Control Universe of Harold T. Wilkins, which he edited along with Timothy Green Beckley. 

An edited version of this interview was published in the September 2007 (Vol. 22 no. 9) issue of UFO Magazine: P.O. Box 11013, Marina Del Rey, CA 90295 www.ufomag.com