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Dave: OK Kay. What I want to ask is
this. Your encounter came 14 days or so after you learning of Hicks’
experience. From an evidential perspective, of course, it would have
been better if it had come before Hicks’
experience because the skeptic will assume your hearing of Hicks
prompted your rich imagination.
So please tell me what you feel is behind this. Do you believe
somehow all this was orchestrated i.e., - me hearing about this case
and sending it to you, and then
‘they’
gave you the experience knowing you would link it to Hicks? Or maybe
you think your very interest in the Hicks case plus your link to the
beings prompted them to choose you for this revelation?
Kay: They knew I had an interest in this case. I was
quite taken with Hicks’
description of her mannerisms and the way he described her gait. I
also had no idea of who this man was and that he actually ran his
campaign on disclosure, until you sent the information to me. When I
had this experience, it scared me, to be honest. I felt that they
knew of our email exchanges, my interest, etc. I waited as long as I
did because I did not feel comfortable being a part of this. I did
not want to come across as needing to be a part of this. It’s
hard to handle and process these experiences sometimes, and to be
honest, this is just not something I wanted or needed to deal with.
Dave: Was there any difference with this encounter as
compared to your others in terms of the abduction experience? Did
you remember it immediately? Did it come during sleep, etc?
Your husband Erik was present in your underground visit - did he
share the experience in reality - I mean, did he have an abduction
experience too or did he “sleep through it” as it were? I’m
sorry I have forgotten Erik’s
role in your life - is he an experiencer and/or supporter of your
cosmic journey? I confess I have read so many abductees’
life stories that I sometimes forget who’s
who!
Kay: I remembered it immediately. I remember seeing
the time of 5:00 a.m. and the feeling of having just returned and I
had all of these memories. I remember too, that it was difficult to
function afterward, but that is typical after an encounter. The part
of being taken happens fast - it is fast and often traumatic for me
and I believe this is why I don’t
remember that aspect of it, or perhaps why they blocked it from me.
I wrote about a more recent encounter where I was conscious during
this part of it - it’s
also in the Primer and is titled
“The
Mantis and The Vortex.” The motion alarm went off when the Being was
standing next to my bed and I woke up and saw him. We both “freaked
out.” Then I was floating across the bed, etc.
My husband is an abductee, but I don’t
like to publish his information very often because of his work, job,
etc. I sometimes include his information, but most of the time I
leave it out. Several of the photographs in my
ET Gallery showing the bruises are of my husband. There are
several other male abductees’photos,
and female abductees’ photos on that page as well.
In this case, he did not remember anything happening, which is
not unusual. I’m
the one who remembers the encounters more times than he. Sometimes
we will remember the same thing happening; and sometimes he gets
screen imagery, and sometimes he gets “zapped” or switched off for
control purposes. The eraser type bruises are from a wand type
device that emits some sort of shock and we think this is done to
control him. I rarely get these types of bruises, but I have gotten
them in the past. I reviewed my journal and to answer your
question, he did not have any memories. I didn’t write anything down
about his memories in my journal. He also read the article and it
did not help him to remember anything, but he does remember when it
happened because I was fairly shaken when it was all over.
Dave: When you first arrived, you didn’t describe the
Being. Was it a male or female? Appearance, clothes, etc? Sorry, I
have just read down and I think you say he was always slightly out
of sight.
Kay: He was always standing in my periphery or at a
distance from me. Some of these Beings can stand right in front of
you and they can block your ability to see them clearly. I think
this is what he did. He did not want me to focus on him, even though
he was with us a lot of the time we were there. I believe he wanted
me to focus on the city or underground base and not him in
particular.
It is similar to the way it was depicted in the movie Knowing
with Nicholas Cage and the dark figures they showed interacting, in
the distance, with the little boy. They showed the dark, male
humanoid appearing figures and their faces were dark and blurred in
the beginning. Whoever created that image had to know about this
subject matter or have had direct experience with these Beings. I
was very impressed with those characters because they looked so
real. Later on in the movie, they reveal their true appearance,
which went from somewhat human looking to quite alien in the end.
Dave: Did you physically talk to the male being and
then when you realised he was a telepath - simply stopped
verbalising?
Kay: When I asked him the question related to the
number of pets, I physically spoke (verbalized) to him. After I
realized he was telepathic, I “thought” most of my communications
after that.
Dave: Regarding the lights: I am trying to understand
this. You said at first you held these lights, but then that they
moved as if programmed. I wondered if they had tethers, and reading
ahead I see they did.
Maybe you mean that when they were lit up they took on a mind of
their own like dogs on a lead? It reminds me of an interview I did
with a scientist who attended the Scole Experiment in England. He
witnessed spirit lights which were, I think, like bubbles and one
landed on his open hand and he was able to slightly feel its touch.
Kay: Yes, they had tethers, but they were not string
or ribbon, etc. They seemed as unusual as the lights. I should have
probably mentioned that earlier in my description of them. I wonder
now if these lights were created using some type of artificial
intelligence.
Dave: One of the substances you
saw at the food station sounds a little like “candy floss” which
they sell in UK fairgrounds. Do you have that in the US? There’s
a spinning tub and they place a stick in the middle and the strands
of sugar attach to it until you have this large glob of feathery
substance on the stick which kids love.
Kay: Yes. We call it “cotton candy.” I looked at
several images of these machines and all of the ones I found were
round. The machine on the table was square. I realized the
similarity between the two, which is probably why I knew it was a
food source. However, the strands were thicker, and as I described
and showed with the three images.
Dave: What did you perceive that you were wearing on
this trip? Was it your night sleep attire or were you unclothed?
Kay: I was in my nightshirt. What I normally sleep in.
I was not cold either, so the temperature in this underground city
or base was obviously controlled by some sort of technology.
Dave: Some of this partly answers my questions above
about the motivations of the beings in giving you this experience.
Kay, when you talk about witnessing this unusual gait - are you
talking about seeing this on previous abductions or this one or
both?
And previously have you commented on this odd way of walking in your
writings or maybe private correspondence to people. That would make
it more evidential perhaps.
Kay: It has been during previous abductions. If you
look at the illustration of the three mantises in my Primer, it
shows them standing up, and the next illustration shows them bending
over. They are walking toward me in the second illustration.
A side
view of a Mantis walking can be found in my ET Gallery. The tall
Type Four Greys and the first generation hybrids walk in this manner
as well. Their backbone rocks forward and backward in a slow motion
as their legs move. It’s
incredible to witness.
The other gait or type of “walking” is not really a walk as we know
it. It’s a
step - glide - step - glide. It would be impossible for a human to
mimic either of these gaits. The latter is seen with the shorter
Greys (similar to Betty Andreasson-Luca’s)
and some hybrids. I’ve seen them move like this as well and I wrote
about this in my free e-book. Some people refer to this as floating,
but there is some type of unusual stepping movement involved as
well. Also, some of them do “float” or glide just above the ground.
I haven’t
totally figured this out except to hypothesize that it is either
telekinesis or it is accomplished with technology, or a combination
of both telekinesis and technology.
Dave: I seem to have seen in one
video where Hicks does try to simulate how the woman he saw walked.
Have you seen this?
Kay: If you are referring to the video with the music
and the scenes of the city, I did see that. It is pretty close
to how some of the Beings move/walk/glide. They did a pretty good
job animating her movements. I suspect she was much more alien
appearing than Hicks remembers. I feel that she was probably wearing
a wig, had large glasses on to hide her eyes and, well, the outfit
was certainly over the top. They do these things to camouflage their
appearance; anything to make them fit in with us. It’s
also possible, because I’ve been with them so many times, that no
one else around Hicks realized what they were seeing. They have the
ability to block other peoples’
awareness of them. It gives them an incredible advantage over us. He
had to have been chosen by them. This was no accident - it had to be
intentional on their part.
Dave: Kay, what is the extent of your correspondence
with Hicks? Has he seen this latest? What is his reaction? Is there
any message, for instance, you would like Colin to relay to him when
they meet?
Kay: I’m
a little embarrassed to say that I never did write him personally. I
wrote to Colin Andrews and he posted my letter on his Web site. I
had hoped that Councillor Hicks would have seen it and realized I
was supporting him. To be honest, this whole thing had me very
disturbed for a long time. I still feel uncomfortable about
publishing it now, but I feel this happened for a reason and that I
am supposed to share this with others. I have not had any direct
communication with Hicks.
I don’t
want to publish anything that will hurt Hicks or interfere with
anything he is trying to do. I hope he reads my Introduction on my
Web site: He needs to know that I’m
a real person who has been involved in this for most of my life. My
case has been investigated by Budd Hopkins, MUFON, etc.
I very much admire Hicks for coming out and publicly telling the
world what or who he saw. I know his whole life changed the day he
saw this Being. Sometimes people, like Hicks, are chosen or rather,
“drafted” for a reason. He is correct in saying that his life will never be
the same. I only hope that he can keep his position and keep
speaking out about this subject. It takes a lot out of you, and
other people can be cruel. “The powers that be” do not want
disclosure, so like a lot of other people, I’m
sure he has had to endure some not so positive people and situations
during his work toward disclosure. I hope he paces himself; stays
safe and strong.
Dave: Thanks so much for sharing this with Colin and
myself Kay. Excuse my ignorance in some of my questions, but I’m
just asking what may occur to others out there who haven’t
maybe studied your Web site in detail.
Kay: I would be happy to answer any other questions
you have. Thank you again for your interest and for taking
the time to read my information.
NOTES
Artist's impression of the humanoid seen in Winchester High Street,
England. Published on Colin Andrews Web site Courtesy Adrian
Hicks.
http://www.colinandrews.net/UFO-Councillor-Hicks4.html
Councillor Adrian Hicks: The Event
http://www.councillorhicks.co.uk/
Councillor Hicks, an orthopaedic technician in the A&E department at
the Royal Hampshire County
Hospital for some 35 years, said he saw the creature at about
1.30 p.m. on a Saturday in late January or early February 2004.
The Daily Echo.
Andrews, Colin. The Winchester Cluster.
http://www.colinandrews.net/UFO-Councillor-Hicks4.html
Haith, Dave. Vote For Hicks And Alien Disclosure!
http://www.colinandrews.net/UFO-Councillor-Hicks4.html
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